Trading in Lawas

00:00:02uih mala ieh ineh ratnan lawey tauh lun Bawang
I would like to talk about the journey of the Lun Bawang

00:00:07luk temurun me' Lawas bang laak limeh puluhan
who went down to Lawas in the 50s

00:00:12mecing laak enem puluhan
who went down to Lawas in the 50s and 60s

00:00:15bang kereb luk maun
in the past

00:00:18lawey rat tunge' Ba Kelalan
travelling from Ba Kelalan

00:00:22dih kai rudap Long Agong
we slept at Long Agong

00:00:24su neh ceh lepo luk tiaru' Kerjaan
there is a shelter there that was made by the government

00:00:28apo aneh neh, apo kenangan
the roof was a roof made of wild palm leaves

00:00:37dih ko tudo, rudap ineh
then you spend the night there

00:00:40pekaak dih, dih ari me' nge' Long Beluyu'
and the next morning you go to Long Beluyu'

00:00:45rat bang Long Beluyu' kai nih peh
when we leave Long Beluyu'

00:00:48dih kai me' Long Semadoh
we go to Long Semadoh

00:00:50rat Long Semadoh, dih me' Long Luping
from Long Semadoh we go to Long Luping

00:00:54Long Luping, me' deh Long Merarap
from Long Luping, they go to Long Merarap

00:00:57Long Merarap bang kereb luk neh
at that time in Long Merarap

00:00:59na inan kampung
there wasn't a village

00:01:03ieh ineh ruma' luun pulung
it was a house in the jungle

00:01:07kerjaan naru' eceh lepo su neh
the government built a hut there

00:01:13ieh ineh apo kenangan
also with a wild palm roof

00:01:16dan alad anit, anit kayuh bang kereb luk neh
the walls were made of tree bark at that time

00:01:25dan teh, rat Long Luping, rat nge' Long Merarap
and then from Long Luping, from Long Merarap

00:01:31me' Long Mebaung pana' na inan kampung
you go to Long Mebaung which also doesn't have a village

00:01:36rudap bang ruma' luk pinudut kerjaan
you sleep in a house that the government made

00:01:43ieh ineh lepo
that is a hut

00:01:48ieh ineh pana' lepo
that is also a hut

00:01:52tiaru' deh apo ieh
they made a roof

00:01:54apo kukub ruen deh
they made a roof out of kukub leaves

00:01:56alad anit ineh to' ruen deh
the walls were also made of tree bark

00:02:02rat su neh, me' nge' Long Tuyo
from there you go to Long Tuyo

00:02:06rat Long Tuyo me' deh Puneng Berayung
from Long Tuyo they go to Puneng Berayung

00:02:10rat Long Berayung, Long Sukang luk nekinih
from Long Berauyung, they go to what is now Long Sukang

00:02:14mebala bang kereb dih me' Long Lutok
at that time it was known as Long Lutok

00:02:18rat Long Lutok peh, Ruan Sepakoi
from Long Lutok you go to Ruan Sepakoi

00:02:21rat Ruan Sepakoi neh peh
from Ruan Sepakoi

00:02:23ame' ruma' Singa Belu neh maun
you used go to Singa Belu's house

00:02:27nekinih deh mala dih Long Sebangang
now it's called Long Sebangang

00:02:31rat su neh merufu' me' ruma' iKurus kedeh
from there sometimes you go to Kurus' house

00:02:38nge' Tang Itung
in Tang Itung

00:02:40merufu' feh, tecu me' ruma' i Babut Arem kedeh maun
sometimes they will go straight to Babut Arem's house

00:02:46luk dei' Long Tuma'
which is at Long Tuma'

00:02:48merufu' feh bang kereb neh
sometimes at that time

00:02:51inan alud rat suneh neh
there was a boat from there

00:02:54rat Long Tuma' me' dei' Lawas lah
from Long Tuma' to Lawas

00:02:57a keli' uih tuda' luk bire lun merar ku tambang alud dih maun
I don't know how much our elders paid for the boat back then

00:03:02a keli'
no idea

00:03:02mungkin ieh limeh pulu' sin
maybe it was 50 cents

00:03:04ataupun ieh waluh pulu' sin
or it was 80 cents

00:03:07ataupun seh rigit, kudeng nih
or one ringgit, something like that

00:03:09rat suneh me' nge' Lawas lah
from there to Lawas

00:03:12alud dih, ieh ineh pakai igin
that boat used an engine

00:03:17igin-igin sigel ieh
it had a sigel engine

00:03:21nekinih express
now they use express

00:03:23ba ulai ieh
it was very slow

00:03:24mulai iamo' neh neh doo' luk bang kereb luk neh lah
slow but that was the best at that time

00:03:29abud-abud, rica' pieh peh
depending on the time

00:03:34me' pulu' limeh kuda'
it went to 15 horsepower

00:03:37limeh kuda', enem kuda', igin nih, it's power
5 horsepower, 6 horsepower, the engine

00:03:42dengan pulu' limeh kuda'
and 15 horsepower

00:03:44a luk meluun ratnan neh peh
there wasn't anything better than that

00:03:46iamo' tau keli' neh mawer sesuut ratnan muwey lah
and we know that it is much faster than rowing

00:03:53muwey pakai ticu'
rowing by hand

00:03:56mecing deh Lawas peh
then they reach Lawas

00:03:58kedai Lawas bang kereb dih pun ruma' apo pagung
the shops in Lawas at that time had wild palm rooves

00:04:08alad pagung
and wild palm walls

00:04:12dan barang bang kereb ineh luk iten kai
as for the things that we took with us

00:04:17kereb neh nguit bera
we took rice at that time

00:04:21anid-anid luk inan kai tudo
all the places that we stayed

00:04:25kudeng peh ieh bang ruma' kadang inan kampung
if it is in a longhouse with a village

00:04:31merufu' feh deh neman kekai
sometimes they would feed us

00:04:34dih deh neman
they feed us

00:04:36muli' kai rat pa Lawas
and when we get back from Lawas

00:04:37pun rat tunge' pana' deh teh neman
they feed us again

00:04:40ieh ineh lemulun luk rang bawang neh lah
that is the people who live on the way

00:04:44kudeng peh iko lun aneh peh
if it's something else

00:04:46kudeng luk na inan lemulun peh
if it's a place where there are no people

00:04:49lepo-lepo neh peh
if it's just a shelter

00:04:51iko sendiri ngelaak
then you cook yourself

00:04:52ngaceku nan sedia' kai
because we were prepared

00:04:54nguit lacang suut baben kai
we brought along a small pot

00:04:59dan bera iten kai
and we brought rice

00:05:01anid-anid lepo luk inan rudap nih peh
every hut that we stayed in

00:05:05na lemulun
when there weren't any people

00:05:06dih kai necan, nabet bera dih yang buduk kudeng nih ko'
then we left some rice tied up under the root

00:05:10muli' kai napeh
and when we got back

00:05:11neh pakai kai ngelaak
we used that to cook with

00:05:13iamo' a ieh metutu' to'
but it didn't disappear

00:05:15na ieh metutu'
it didn't disappear

00:05:16a lun meno bang kereb dih
no-one stole things at that time

00:05:18muli' ko fem
when you come back

00:05:20dih ko ngalap bera midih fem
then you take your rice

00:05:22pa kitoi teh bera dih tiabet liang buduk neh
lots of bags of rice are hanging there tied under the rooftop

00:05:26nan peh la nih feh
if there is extra

00:05:28bera luk binabeh ko rat tunge' nih feh
of the rice that you took from here

00:05:31Ba Kelalan, pa Long Semadoh, Long Sukang, me' kudeng nih
from Ba Kelalan or Long Semadoh, Long Sukang and places like that

00:05:36dih ideh masui dih bang kedai fem
then they sell it in the shops

00:05:38merufu', uen masui keneh
sometimes it's sold

00:05:40tuda' neh raga ieh
and whatever the price

00:05:42neh inan kai melih gula
that's what we use to buy sugar

00:05:43dan melih kopi, melih tucu' kudeng nih
and buy coffee, salt, and things like that

00:05:48iten kai muli'
that we bring home

00:05:49jadi peh merufu' kai nih mabeh laal
sometimes we bring chickens

00:05:55mabeh laal mecing kai anid-anid ruma' luk inan kai mecing
bring chickens and at every house that we arrived at

00:06:02dih neka kukud laak to'
we untied the chicken's feet

00:06:04nan kai nesedia' bekang dih
we had prepared a basket

00:06:09uen kai kutak-kutak kudeng nih
we made small compartments like this

00:06:12dih naru' laal bang dih
and put the chikens in them

00:06:13nabet kukud ieh peh
and tied their feet together

00:06:15dih kai mabeh neh bang bekang kudeng nih
then we carry them in the basket

00:06:18dih kai masui deh range' Lawas peh
and sell them in Lawas

00:06:23jadi mecing ko ku ruma' sidih
so you arrive at the house

00:06:27neka kukud laal dih peh
and you untie the feet of the chicken

00:06:29nalan ko
when you continue on your journey

00:06:30dih ko nabet kidih beruh
then you tie the feet again

00:06:31ruen naru' neh bang bekang
and put them in the basket

00:06:32dih ko mabeh keneh
and carry it

00:06:33memang mesusa' ari mabeh laal
it was difficult to carry chickens

00:06:37ngaceku mebuen ieh ku tai' neh to' luun bekang dih
because it smelled of droppings in the bag

00:06:41kudeng neh sineh
that's that one

00:06:44merufu' kai nih makai melih... nguit berek
sometimes we brought pigs

00:06:48rat tunge' Ba Kelalan nih nguyut berek
from Ba Kelalan we guide the pigs

00:06:50berek neh iten kai uen masui nge' Lawas
we bring the pigs to sell in Lawas

00:06:53inan kina' luk miek melih berek neh
there are Chinese people who buy those pigs

00:07:00jadi peh, dih kai mecing ko'
so when we arrive

00:07:03kudeng neh teh kai to'
this is what we do

00:07:04mecing dei' lepo luk ulek dih
when we arrive at the hut that we were aiming for

00:07:08ruma' peh ieh
if it is a house

00:07:10dih kai naru' neh bang eta
then we put it in a pigstye

00:07:12pekaak dih nalan
when we set off next morning

00:07:13dih nabet kukud berek dih to'
we tie the pig's feet again

00:07:15memang inan talun sedia'
we prepare some talun tree bark

00:07:18pakai kai inabet kukud berek dih peh
to use to tie the pigs legs

00:07:22dih naru' berek dih patun peh
the you make the pig walk in front

00:07:25inan kerukud kudeng nih peh
and you have a walking stick

00:07:27asal pieh maki' feh
if he goes off track

00:07:28dih ko mefet-mefet kukud ieh...
then you hit the leg...

00:07:31pingit kudeng nih feh
or the cheek like this

00:07:34maki' ieh me' luun dalan
and get him back on track

00:07:36me' pa nih pieh
if he goes this way

00:07:37uen muh mefet-mefet keneh me' pa nih feh
then you guide him back over this way

00:07:38dih ieh me' nalan maya' dalan
then he walks back on the path

00:07:43merufu' bang kereb neh
sometimes at that time

00:07:46berek neh mepuit arang dalan kudeng nih
the pig would escape along the way

00:07:50dih kai, tudo kai
then we will stop

00:07:53nengeco kai dih peh
and spend the day there

00:07:56mieng pieh ku kampung
if it is close to a village

00:08:00tulu suneh neh
at that place

00:08:01dih kai me' nawar kedeh luk kuan kampung dih
we call to the people who are in the village

00:08:08nolong kekai
to help us

00:08:09muit uko'
to bring dogs

00:08:10dih ieh mangang berek dih pem
so they bark at the pigs

00:08:13saget-saget kai upun ngekem keneh
and we quickly go and catch the pig

00:08:15supaya uko' dih a netep keneh
so that the dog doesn't bite it

00:08:17cedera mait ieh napeh
then it will hurt afterwards

00:08:20jadi merufu' peh
sometimes

00:08:23dih pineh, fuit pineh nih luun pulung pineh feh
when it gets loose in the jungle

00:08:26dih kai nalap ceh aneh peh
and then we will take a whatsit

00:08:28neco kai peh
we spend the day

00:08:29dih kai naru' ceh luk nuba' bang bau'
then we will put some food in a container

00:08:34sedia' tiaru' kai
we get it ready

00:08:36bau' aneh ruen kai, tabuh
we make a gourd container

00:08:39dih kai naru' aneh bang dih feh
then we put that thing inside

00:08:41naru' nuba' dih bang dih feh
put the rice inside

00:08:42dih kai nereng keneh feh
and we place it down

00:08:44dih ieh me' kuman dih feh
and it will come and eat it

00:08:47dih kai ramai-ramai feh
and a whole crowd of us

00:08:48ula'-ula' feh
lots of us

00:08:49dih kai ngekem keneh
we catch him

00:08:50dih kai nabet kukud ieh peh
then we tie his legs

00:08:53pengeh dih feh
after that

00:08:54pa nefa dih kai nalan kudeng lawey kai biasa dih
the next day we carry on as normal

00:08:59mait peh kukud berek neh
if the pig's leg gets hurt

00:09:00ngaceku ieh ba berat
because it swells

00:09:02kaneh keneh tiabet dih feh
because it was tied

00:09:05dih kai ngelibal keneh me' kukud selipa to' neneh
then we tie the other leg

00:09:08nguit berek dih
and take the pig

00:09:10mecing dei' Lawas neh peh
then we reach Lawas

00:09:13anid-anid kampung luk belain uih naa ih
and all the villages that I mentioned

00:09:16nih kai nudeh
we whatsit

00:09:18dih kai naru' keneh bang eta
and we put him in a pigstye

00:09:19pekaak dih peh
the next morning

00:09:20dih kai nguit
then we get

00:09:23dih kai neman keneh to' nan nuba' ih
then we feed it with rice

00:09:26berek neh ruen kai kenen kai
the pigs, we eat them

00:09:28inan teh luk ruen kai kenen kai lemulun to'
there are some that we eat

00:09:34jadi feh, me' mieng-mieng aneh neh feh
so when we get closer

00:09:40me' mieng-mieng kadai neh fem
when we get closer to the shops

00:09:42inan sebuang kai nih luk nakal dih men
there are some of us who are quite naughty

00:09:47dih deh neh neh ngened berek dih feh
they push the pig into water

00:09:51naru' keneh ngirup fa'
and make him drink lots of water

00:09:53mecing feh ineh nge' kadai range' neh peh
and when it gets to the shops

00:09:57uen nimang ieh
and they weigh it

00:09:59berat ieh fem
he's heavy

00:10:00meberat ieh neh feh
he's heavy

00:10:03tunin lun
people will ask

00:10:04tuda' raga ceh kati'
how much for one kati'

00:10:07maun pakai kati'
back then, they used the kati' measurement

00:10:09nekinih pakai kilo tau fem
now we use kilos

00:10:10ooi doo' raga berek nekinih
pigs are good value today

00:10:13tuda' raga ieh?
how much is it?

00:10:15tudu' sin ceh kati'
7 cents per kati'

00:10:18ooi berita' nih feh kedeh
oooh that's high, they say

00:10:20doo' neh fian kai nih nguit berek peh
we were happy to bring pigs

00:10:23tau nekinih, tudu' sin kudan tau neh
for us today, seven cents is useless

00:10:26a ieh me' ku anun, bah
it's useless

00:10:28kui bang kereb dih, ceh sin
cakes in those days, one cent

00:10:34dan pau bang kereb dih, limeh sin
and the pau bun, five cents

00:10:39ceh kopi, kopi O kereb dih, limeh sin
a coffee, coffee without milk, five cents

00:10:47ceh sin tineh to'
it's also one cent

00:10:49meley ieh kereb nih
it's cheaper at that time

00:10:51raga berek bang kereb dih
the price of a pig at that time

00:10:53mecing ieh teluh pulu'
it could reach 30

00:10:56ataupun epat pulu' usin British kereb dih
or 40 British money (at that time)

00:10:59usin British bang kereb neh
they used British money at that time

00:11:04nan luk mecing epat pulu'
some reached 40

00:11:06inan mecing limeh pulu'
some reached 50

00:11:08rayeh tu-tu pieh peh
if it was really big

00:11:09limeh ngepulu' neh raga ieh
the price will be 50

00:11:12dih kai ngalap usin dih peh
so we took the money

00:11:13neh luk nan kuh melih barang iten kai muli'
and we used it to buy the things that we take home

00:11:18dih kai melih barang iten kai muli'
then we buy things to take home

00:11:24kepiped neh bang laak enem puluhan ieh peh
finally in the 60s

00:11:28nan lun nguit kerubau bang kereb neh peh
there were people who brought buffalo at that time

00:11:31deh nguit kerubau
they brought buffalo

00:11:34raga kerubau ruen masui deh kereb dih
the price of buffalo that they sold in those days

00:11:37luk iten deh dih
that they brought

00:11:39meratu limeh ngepulu'
was 150

00:11:40meratu limeh ngepulu' raga sebuleng kerubau tineh
150 was the price of a female buffalo

00:11:44bang kereb luk neh
at that time

00:11:46kerubau rayeh pieh peh
if it was a big buffalo

00:11:49kerubau lai rayeh
a male buffalo

00:11:50dih teluh ratu pat pulu'
then the price was 340

00:11:52yuk piped ih feh
and lastly

00:11:55anak, waluh ngepulu' eceh neh
the calf is 80 for one

00:11:58sebuleng, luk ngurek neh
for one, that is the measurement of a ngurek

00:12:00nekinih peh, a ieh me' kudeng neh,
it's not like that today

00:12:02nan teluh ribuh
there are some for 3000

00:12:04nan pat ribuh
some for 4000

00:12:05nan me' limeh ribuh pun nan
there are also some for 5000

00:12:09kerubau luk bang kereb luk nekinih
buffalo today

00:12:12bang kereb neh, meley kerubau dih
at that time, buffalo were cheap

00:12:14jadi muli' kai neh feh
so then we went home

00:12:16dih kai nguit barang luk iten kai nih
and we brought things back with us

00:12:20doo' ieh sarung
for example material

00:12:23bang kereb neh
at that time

00:12:24kudeng ieh sekayuh kain
for a measure of cloth

00:12:26bang kereb neh, kain sekayuh
at that time, a measure of cloth

00:12:29kai melih dih
we bought it

00:12:31limeh ngepulu' ceh roll neh
50 for one roll

00:12:33ceh aneh neh, ceh batang
a roll

00:12:36kain bata' peleh
dark green cloth

00:12:39inan belacu' kai luk mebuda' sekayuh
when there was white cloth

00:12:43dih kai melih neh
we bought that

00:12:44mecing tunge' neh
when we got back

00:12:46uen ngerut neh feh ku kuyu'
we would sew it into clothes

00:12:48neh teh kuyu'
for shirts

00:12:49neh teh seliwar to'
and for shorts

00:12:50merufu' uen masui kai neh Indonesia
sometimes we sold it in Indonesia

00:12:52beliyen deh neh bang kereb dih
they would buy it at that time

00:12:54ceh sekayuh neh, dueh sekayuh, ceh kerubau
one measure, or two measures, for one buffalo

00:12:58bang kereb sineh
at that time

00:13:00dueh sekayuh, ceh kerubau lah
two measures, one buffalo

00:13:03bang kereb luk neh
at that time

00:13:07ilung neh, kai kula' anak pa kereb dih
that meant that we as children

00:13:10mecing pakai neh to'
we use them

00:13:11luk beliyen kai beken
but what we bought is different

00:13:12kai melih adil bedilan neh kai kereb dih
we bought fire crackers at that time

00:13:17mecing kai iring ruma' dih fem
when we got near the house

00:13:20me' kai mieng-mieng ruma'
we got close to the house

00:13:22dih kai nutud neh feh
and then we set them off

00:13:23dih kai nutud
we set them off

00:13:24dih deh munih
and they made a noise

00:13:24oooh dih deh luk rat Lawas mecing peh, kedeh
ooh, those who went to Lawas are coming back

00:13:30adil bedilan beliyen kai kula' anak dih
us children bought fire crackers

00:13:34barang pieh beliyen kai peh
if we bought things

00:13:36mecing kai tunge' ruma' deh
when we reached home

00:13:38uen kai naru' ceh bitang bang sikang kudeng nih
we would make a drying line in the common area

00:13:42bang sikang
in the common area

00:13:43dih kai necang barang-barang
we hang all the things

00:13:45non luk bilih ko
whatever you bought

00:13:47uen kudeng luk uen siren lemulun luk mecing
is put on display for people to see

00:13:52mecing deh kereb dih
whoever arrives at that time

00:13:53mecing deh peh
they arrive

00:13:55doo' ieh sarung keh
maybe there is material

00:13:57doo' ieh kuyu'
or clothes

00:13:59doo' ieh tekip
or sarongs

00:14:00doo' ieh seriwar kudeng nih feh
or shorts etc.

00:14:04dih deh necang deh lun bitang lun sikang
then they hang it on the drying line in the common area

00:14:07dih lun nier-nier dih peh
and people come and look

00:14:09dueh eco, teluh eco, kudeng nih feh
two days or three days, like that

00:14:12pengeh neh fem, dih lun me' nier ieh fem
then people have had a chance to look

00:14:14dih kai naru' dih bang pati'
then we put it in a suitcase

00:14:17nekinih peh ieh, tuda' feh kain luk bilih tau
today, however many clothes we buy

00:14:20a tau naru' dih tad neh siren lun
we don't put them out like that for people to see

00:14:23eyh tuda' raga nih?
how much is this one?

00:14:24tuda' raga nih?
how much is this one?

00:14:25dih teh kai mala kudeng nih kudeng nih raga ieh
and then we say the price is this or that

00:14:29dih deh ma' rayeh dih mala
and then the elders say

00:14:31ooh nih raga bilih kai, kudeng nih, kudeng nih, kedeh
this was how much we bought it for, like this, like this

00:14:35anak pieh kereb dih feh
as for children

00:14:37me' nier xxx
they would come and see xxx

00:14:38idey peh lemulun luk mecing rat Lawas
whoever came back from Lawas

00:14:41me' tauh me' nikak keneh
let's go and visit them

00:14:43merufu' feh, nguit anak lun
sometimes people brought their children

00:14:46mecing feh anak radih
when children came

00:14:48dih kai mare dueh kati', teluh kati' gula neh feh
then we would give them two kati' or three kati' of sugar

00:14:54dih deh ngalap gula
they take the sugar

00:14:55dih naru' neh bang raun neh feh
and put it in leaves

00:14:57dih mare dih kuan anak dih
and they give it to the children

00:14:58ataupun dih kai ngalap ceh...
or then we take a...

00:15:00deh ma' lun merar ngalap sudu'
the elders take a spoon

00:15:02ngauk gula luk sekati' neh fem
and scoop a kati' of sugar

00:15:06anid-anid ticu' bang ticu' deh ma' anak dih
into every child's hand

00:15:09dih deh ngiil-ngiil aneh dih feh, gula dih bang palad dih feh
and they lick it from their palms

00:15:12a gula-gula kereb dih tad neh
we didn't have sweets in those days

00:15:18lun merar peh sidih fem
as for adults

00:15:20kereb dih fem, dih deh mare pelidik keneh
they gave them matches at that time

00:15:24pelidik
matches

00:15:26dih deh mare pelidik neh
they gave matches

00:15:28nerak kubil aneh nih fem
and they tear off the bit that you strike the matches on

00:15:34mula' peh lun fem
if there were lots of people

00:15:35uen manid
they will divide it among themselves

00:15:36ceh burur dueh pilak
two pieces per person

00:15:39pat pilak, kudeng nih bare ku ceh burur
or four pieces per person

00:15:41nerak neh segerang pelidik neh fem
they tore the side of the match box

00:15:44neh pakai deh nutik-nutik
and that's what they used to strike

00:15:46deh ma' lun merar sineh
that was for the adults

00:15:47anak pieh pem
for children

00:15:49gula nih luk ruen deh bang palad dih pem
they gave sugar in their palms

00:15:51dih deh ngalap dih pem
they get it

00:15:52dih deh ngiil-ngiil keneh bang palad
and lick it from their palms

00:15:54a gula-gula kereb dih
no sweets in those days

00:15:56tad neh, aneh luk maun ringkas
so that is the short version

00:16:01uih mala dih tad neh
I'll finish here

00:16:03jadi peh, bang kereb luk nekinih peh
but nowadays

00:16:08raga-raga anun pana' mikat
the price of everything is higher

00:16:12sardine bang kereb dih, dueh pulu' sin, etin luk rayeh
sardines in those days were 2 cents for a big tin

00:16:16doo' ieh sambal udang, kudeng nih, limeh pulu' esin sebuleng
and prawn paste, 50 cents for one

00:16:22bang kereb luk neh
in those days

00:16:23epat pulu' sin, kudeng neh, raga neh, bang kereb neh
the price was 40 cents or so at that time